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Post by Bex on Feb 1, 2011 11:30:44 GMT -6
Is it compelling characters, sensational plots or a mixture of both? What are some of your favorite stories, and how have you incorporated elements of them into your own writing?
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Post by kellyzollo on Feb 2, 2011 18:25:42 GMT -6
I think to me a good story has a mix of both. Compelling characters with good plot points. If your character is too Mary Sue for me I probably won't read it. I like a lot realism and strong characterization, I'm always reading something from fan fiction, to a web series all the way to a new book. I'm not a huge fan of the current vampire/werewolf trend eating up most of main stream media, but I have seen some good TV shows about them and read some good fiction involving sci-fi/fantasy.
Some of my favorite authors are Ken Follett, Nora Roberts, Jodi Picoulti, Nicholas Sparks, Phillipa Greggory, Laura K. Hamilton, Terry Brooks, J.R. Tolkien and others. I love to read, something and if you have good characters and a good plot I'll likely check it out and give it a shot. It is important for me to connect with a character and if I can't do that, I get bored with the story and won't read.
I don't like weak or whinny females, or males that don't have some sort of human flaw. Probably because it stretches the boundaries or realism for me. If your character is co-dependent on a male and your male is perfect, or if I find it too cute or annoying with a ribbon on it...yeah what I said earlier about not reading.
I think I have done a good job of balance with my characters on my show, none of them are all that powerful or perfect. I would like to think that no one would find them whinny or too needy. They deal with real crap in their lives, cause I deal with real crap. What else, some inspirations come from a lot of prime time television like Cold Case. Dangerous Tides was heavily influenced by the early years of the Sopranos.
I think that is it for now.
Kelly
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Post by scath on Feb 2, 2011 18:31:22 GMT -6
Compelling characters, good dialogue, and awesome world building, in my opinion. I'll read anything that has those, even if the plot is a little weak.
If I don't like the characters, I usually won't finish reading the story. One exception was Twilight, which I read on a dare and wanted to throw across the room by page six or so. I still give the author kudos for creating characters that caused me to loathe them. =)
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Post by kellyzollo on Feb 2, 2011 18:34:44 GMT -6
Ok I was so going to use that as an example of bad writing with a whinny and annoying female lead! So this made me laugh so hard today. I borrowed the book from a friend after she claimed it would be a great read. I suffered through that damn book, and I did throw it against the wall at least 6 times before I was done.
Needless to say I returned the other books in the series without opening a page of them.
Kelly
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Post by cajeck on Feb 2, 2011 21:44:43 GMT -6
I need good characters--flawed and sympathetic as you all had said--and also a lot of good dialogue. Depending on the nature of the story, I don't need a lot of change in scenery, or vast settings. "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn is an example of a novel that is really just dialogue between two characters. I can read screenplays and theater scripts by themselves, too. Shakespeare, Edward Albee, and Arthur Miller are some of my favorite playwrights. Also, about plot, if the characters are well-rounded, and the situations they are cast into interesting enough, I can get by. Some of my favorite TV shows and webcomics are entirely slice-of-life.
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Post by scath on Feb 3, 2011 10:44:22 GMT -6
Ok I was so going to use that as an example of bad writing with a whinny and annoying female lead! So this made me laugh so hard today. I borrowed the book from a friend after she claimed it would be a great read. I suffered through that damn book, and I did throw it against the wall at least 6 times before I was done. Needless to say I returned the other books in the series without opening a page of them. Kelly I didn't even check the other books out. I heard 'sparkly vampires' and made a note not to read the series. Chelsea Quinn Yarbro and Bram Stoker introduced me to vampires, see. But like I said, I got dared (double-dawg dared, even!), so I read the first. Haven't even looked to see if the library has the others. That's why the book didn't get thrown at a wall. ;D
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Post by Bex on Feb 4, 2011 8:46:43 GMT -6
For me, it's all about the characters. I try to stay away from vampire stories or anything of that nature, but if the vampire is compelling enough and I understand what drives him to be so vampire-y, I will definitely give it a shot.
As for Twilight, I could barely get past the first sentence.
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